Russell, My theory is COMPLETELY compatible with relativity. You just don't understand my theory if you think that...
Edgar On Thursday, February 6, 2014 8:26:43 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 07:59:53PM -0500, Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > Jesse, > > > > > > What's wrong with "conscious experience"? Every observation of science > is > > > ultimately a conscious experience. > > > > > > > Yes, ultimately, but the observations used in physical science used are > > always of quantitative values that can be measured by some sort of > > measuring-instrument. > > > > Anyway, it's fine with me if you want to argue in favor of p-time using > > qualitative aspects of conscious experience, and in fact I did address > the > > argument from conscious experience in the last two paragraphs of the > post > > at > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/jFX-wTm_E_Q/jUPOnqbP6hwJ-- > > I don't think you addressed that part. In any case, I'm trying to get > > a > > sense of whether you think there are multiple *independent* arguments in > > favor of p-time, or whether any argument you could make for p-time would > > depend crucially on pointing to qualitative aspects of conscious > > experience. The exact nature of the conscious experience of change seems > > pretty slippery and hard to pin down, so I would prefer to just agree to > > disagree about what is proved by conscious experience and discuss other > > less subjective arguments, if you do have any independent ones. > > > > A subjective present moment is not a problem, indeed it is required > for my TIME postulate, although I would argue that the past light cone > is probably a more useful concept than a spacelike foliation. The > problem is with an intersubjective present moment, such as Edgar seems > to be promoting, which is not compatible with relativity. > > Cheers > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected]<javascript:> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
