On 11 Feb 2014, at 02:35, LizR wrote:

On 11 February 2014 13:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2/10/2014 1:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 10 Feb 2014, at 06:08, meekerdb wrote:

On 2/9/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Even on his argument, that nobody understand but him, against step 3? Then I invite you to attempt to explain it to us.


I think I understand it. Asking the question "which will you be" in the MW experiment is ambiguous because "you" is duplicated.

But that question is John Clark's invention. I never ask it. The question asked is about your FIRST PERSON expectation about 1-your future. It cannot be ambiguous when we assume comp.
Sure it is. What does "your first person expectation" refer to. Does it ask what will your 1-p experience be? Or does it ask what is your 1-p feeling about where you will be?

Consider a quantum measurement instead. Do we have an expectation of 1p experience when we check if a photon's been reflected or transmitted? We assign a probability to each outcome, surely? Why is Bruno's duplicator different?

(We seem to have been around in a loop on this about 100 times...)


With John Clark.

With Brent that is new. We can hope for a more genuine attempt to find a flaw, and less "pee pee" type of arguments.

But sadly, Brent seems to just reintroduce the 1p-3p confusion, and that's is about the same strategy than Clark. That seems to me like an inability to just read and use a definition provided.

Bruno




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