On 12 February 2014 10:55, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 12 February 2014 08:50, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 February 2014 00:41, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:45 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 February 2014 18:40, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> String theory based on Maldacena's conjecture predicted the
>>>>>>> viscosity of the quark-gluon plasma before it was measured
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correctly, I assume.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  and more recently explained the mechanism behind EPR based on
>>>>>>> Einstein-Rosen bridges, which is more like a retrodiction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut, although the initials
>>>>>> have a nice near-symmetry. Why would one need to have ERBs - that
>>>>>> presumably have to be kept open by some exotic mechanicsm - to explain 
>>>>>> EPR
>>>>>> when you can do it very simply anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And how can it be done very simply?
>>>>>
>>>>> By dropping Bell's assumption that time is fundamentally asymmetric
>>>> (for the particles used in an EPR experiment, which are generally photons).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please explain how dropping asymmetric time explains EPR.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It makes it logically possible. I will have to ask a physicist for the
>> details, but it is a mechanism whereby the state of the measuring apparatus
>> can influence the state of the entire system. If we assume the emitter
>> creates a pair of entangled photons and their polarisation is measured at
>> two spacelike-separated locations, then the polarisers can act as a
>> constraint on the state of the photons and hence of the system, and that
>> the setting of one polariser can therefore influence the polarisation
>> measured in the other branch of the experiment (without any FTL signals /
>> non-locality).
>>
>> This preserves realism and locality at the expense of dropping an
>> assumption that most physicists think is untrue anyway (though the idea of
>> time being asymmetric is so deeply ingrained that we automatically
>> assume it must be true of systems it doesn't apply to, like single photons).
>>
>
> Your explanation is hardly satisfactory for this physicist
>

That's because I'm not a physicist. I'm merely showing that an explanation
is possible, and hence should be investigated (although it isn't
*me*showing this - it's been looked into by various people, from
Wheeler-Feynman
absorber 
theory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler%E2%80%93Feynman_absorber_theory>onwards).

It has been considered a satisfactory basis for an explanation of Bell's
Inequality by some physicists, including John Bell.

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