Stathis, 1. This disproves what it sets out to prove. It assumes a RUNNING computer which assumes a flowing time. This example can't be taken seriously. If anything it's a proof that time has to flow to give the appearance of time flowing, which is the correct understanding...
2. I assume in this context you don't mean 'multiverse' but 'many worlds' and that your use of 'multiverse' was a typo? If so I have some questions I like to ask to clarify how you understand MWI, particularly in the block universe context you previously mentioned. Edgar On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:06:49 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On 24 February 2014 07:57, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Stathis, > > > > If we assume time flows, as everyone in the universe other than block > time > > devotees do, the answers to all your questions are obvious. > > > > First of all my universe is NOT a "presentist" universe. Don't use > > misleading incorrect labels to describe it. > > > > If time flows, as it clearly does, then all movement follows > automatically. > > The flow of time is a fundamental assumption in my theory. Doesn't > matter if > > it flows continuously or in minute increments. The way my theory says it > > actually flows is in minute processor cycles in which the current state > of > > the universe is continually recomputed. This also corresponds to the > > continual extension of the radial dimension of a hyperspherical > universe. > > > > The current present moment is simply the current surface of that > > hypersphere, and the current processor cycle of p-time. It is not the > SAME > > present moment all the time because the present moment is just the > current > > moment of p-time. It does continually move along the radial p-time axis > of > > the universe. That's how the past continually transitions to the present > as > > the universe continually recomputes its current state. > > > > This is a simple elegant theory that is consistent with all of science, > and > > reflects the basic idea of science that time flows from the big bang to > the > > present moment of time. Everyone believes this with very few exceptions, > and > > everyone WITHOUT exception lives according to it. Even block universe > > believers live their entire lives as if time flows because that is the > only > > way they can possibly function. That's overwhelming evidence that time > does > > flow. > > > > Now, how does that work in a block universe? You didn't answer my > questions, > > you just asked the same questions back to me and I gave you the answers. > So > > now what are your answers please? > > It can be shown that motion and the appearance of the flow of time can > survive a discontinuity. Imagine there is computer simulation with an > observer watching a moving object, such as ball thrown across his > field of vision. The computer goes through machine states M1,M2,M3,M4 > corresponding (roughly) with subjective states in the observer > S1,S2,S3,S4. Now suppose at M2 the data is saved to disk, the program > stopped and the computer shut down. After a period, the computer is > rebooted, the program restarted and the saved data loaded. The > computer then goes through M3 and M4. Do you agree that the observer > cannot tell if the computer was shut down, or how long it was shut > down for? Do you agree that he has the same uninterrupted visual > experience S1,S2,S3,S4 of the ball flying through the air? > > > And another question. What is the basic reason you think we need a block > > universe? What does it explain that the normal view of time flowing from > the > > big bang to the present doesn't explain? > > > > The block universe theory explains nothing that the ordinary scientific > view > > of the universe doesn't explain better and just adds all sorts of > > complications and convoluted explanations. So why come up with it in the > > first place? > > I find the idea of a multiverse elegant and simple, and despite what > you say I think it is consistent with observation. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
