Stathis, 1. This disproves what it sets out to prove. It assumes a RUNNING computer which assumes a flowing time. This example can't be taken seriously. If anything it's a proof that time has to flow to give the appearance of time flowing, which is the correct understanding...
2. I assume in this context you don't mean 'multiverse' but 'many worlds' and that your use of 'multiverse' was a typo? If so I have some questions I like to ask to clarify how you understand MWI, particularly in the block universe context you previously mentioned. Edgar On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:06:49 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On 24 February 2014 07:57, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Stathis, > > > > If we assume time flows, as everyone in the universe other than block > time > > devotees do, the answers to all your questions are obvious. > > > > First of all my universe is NOT a "presentist" universe. Don't use > > misleading incorrect labels to describe it. > > > > If time flows, as it clearly does, then all movement follows > automatically. > > The flow of time is a fundamental assumption in my theory. Doesn't > matter if > > it flows continuously or in minute increments. The way my theory says it > > actually flows is in minute processor cycles in which the current state > of > > the universe is continually recomputed. This also corresponds to the > > continual extension of the radial dimension of a hyperspherical > universe. > > > > The current present moment is simply the current surface of that > > hypersphere, and the current processor cycle of p-time. It is not the > SAME > > present moment all the time because the present moment is just the > current > > moment of p-time. It does continually move along the radial p-time axis > of > > the universe. That's how the past continually transitions to the present > as > > the universe continually recomputes its current state. > > > > This is a simple elegant theory that is consistent with all of science, > and > > reflects the basic idea of science that time flows from the big bang to > the > > present moment of time. Everyone believes this with very few exceptions, > and > > everyone WITHOUT exception lives according to it. Even block universe > > believers live their entire lives as if time flows because that is the > only > > way they can possibly function. That's overwhelming evidence that time > does > > flow. > > > > Now, how does that work in a block universe? You didn't answer my > questions, > > you just asked the same questions back to me and I gave you the answers. > So > > now what are your answers please? > > It can be shown that motion and the appearance of the flow of time can > survive a discontinuity. Imagine there is computer simulation with an > observer watching a moving object, such as ball thrown across his > field of vision. The computer goes through machine states M1,M2,M3,M4 > corresponding (roughly) with subjective states in the observer > S1,S2,S3,S4. Now suppose at M2 the data is saved to disk, the program > stopped and the computer shut down. After a period, the computer is > rebooted, the program restarted and the saved data loaded. The > computer then goes through M3 and M4. Do you agree that the observer > cannot tell if the computer was shut down, or how long it was shut > down for? Do you agree that he has the same uninterrupted visual > experience S1,S2,S3,S4 of the ball flying through the air? > > > And another question. What is the basic reason you think we need a block > > universe? What does it explain that the normal view of time flowing from > the > > big bang to the present doesn't explain? > > > > The block universe theory explains nothing that the ordinary scientific > view > > of the universe doesn't explain better and just adds all sorts of > > complications and convoluted explanations. So why come up with it in the > > first place? > > I find the idea of a multiverse elegant and simple, and despite what > you say I think it is consistent with observation. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
