On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:36, meekerdb wrote:

On 2/25/2014 7:00 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
admitting simply that indexical notion are modal notion, and thus don't need to obey to Leibniz identity rule.

I don't understand that remark. Are you saying that there is some modal notion that makes identity of indiscernibles wrong? I think of indexical predicates as being ostensive.

I am saying that here:

W = H
M = H

But only in the 3-1 view it make sense (locally) to say that M = W. In the 1-view M ≠ W.

yet, in the 1-view, W = H, and M = H.

There is nothing paradoxal. It comes from the fact that we agree surviving in both place, but are aware we can see only one of them, from the 1p view.

Now, provability, and even more provability-&-truth provide intensional predicates, their numerical extension have a secondary role.

From []A, and A <-> B, it does not follow that []B. You need [](A <-> B).

Bruno





Brent

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