On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:27:46 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 1 March 2014 14:36, Craig Weinberg <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>> >>> "If it's all math, then where does math come from?" >>> >>> Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it >>> is a fact that 1+1=2. >>> >>> These shapes appear to be letters and words also, but they aren't. All >>> it takes is a small chemical change in your brain and 1+1 could = mustard. >>> Even in a completely normative state of mind, 1+1 = 2 doesn't apply to >>> everything. >>> >> > If it's a fact, it's irrelevant whether my brain thinks it's mustard. >
Not if you're the only person left in the universe. I don't think that your brain thinks anything, except maybe about electrochemical ratios and biochemical synthesis. What decides what is "relevant"? > > >> Once cloud plus one cloud equals one large cloud, or maybe one raining >>> cloud. Math is about a very specific >>> >> > Please don't come out with the cloud example, I've heard that so many > times but it's never become any more relevant. Surely you know I'm talking > about the abstract concepts? > Why would abstract concepts be more relevant than examples from reality? > > >> aspect of sense - the sense which objects make when we count them. That >>> sense is abstracted into a language which extends it beyond literal objects >>> to virtual objects, but no matter what you do with math, it has no >>> subjective interior. It's about doing and knowing that is desired by what >>> which is already feeling and being. Doing and knowing by itself, if such a >>> thing could exist, would be information, but it could never feel or be >>> anything. >>> >> > Well, that's me told. Next time I want to make a point with you is it OK > if I quote "I am the Walrus" ? > Is "Well, that's me told." a line in "I am the Walrus"? Craig > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
