On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:48:48 PM UTC-5, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>> >>> "If it's all math, then where does math come from?" >>> >>> Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it >>> is a fact that 1+1=2. >>> >>> >> These shapes appear to be letters and words also, but they aren't. All it >> takes is a small chemical change in your brain and 1+1 could = mustard. >> Even in a completely normative state of mind, 1+1 = 2 doesn't apply to >> everything. Once cloud plus one cloud equals one large cloud, or maybe one >> raining cloud. >> > > (I'll try to elaborate and clarify in MSR terms; apologies if I get it > wrong or miss the topic, as it is very high level stuff...) > > And since every raindrop can in principle be assigned to a cloud, the > number of raindrops equals the number of possible clouds which also equal > one (because normative brain cloud), which equals two (as sense " is > abstracted into a language which extends it beyond literal objects to > virtual objects with no subjective interior", so who cares, right?), which > equals mustard in your sense brain individuality map, which isn't the > territory, as you all know by now. > > I just asked my mustard bottle in the fridge, and it confirmed no desire > for a subjective interior feeling of being, with its silence. Why would an > entity be silent if it had subjective interior feeling? You don't think > mustard bottles chat on internet lists about their internal state while > staying silent via some mustard-yellow-spicy-wireless LAN emergent qualia > fridge intelligence, do you? Ha, gottcha! That's where we miss perhaps the > subtleties of MSR. > > I really wish this would be the final word and champion MSR as the final > TOE, because the day we can convince our banks of this point, everybody > with a positive balance becomes infinitely rich and everybody with negative > balance gets some fuzzy amount of mustard. > > Maybe then I could afford the time to thoroughly understand MSR's main > points, which again, as enumerated and therefore arithmetic points, all > abstract themselves into a language which extend it beyond literal objects > to virtual objects with no subjective interior desire territories, thus > boiling it down to one brain point.... wherein, to my amazement, Silicon > Valley, MSR, NSA meet, chanting: > > > > "the cloud!" > > The cloud as the mustard of sense. > > But I don't know if I have that time to really grasp MSR yet. It's my > first post working with it... so how am I doing, Craig? PGC >
What a charming satire. So fresh and witty. It reminds me of one of the gentlemen in the front row of this painting: http://nevermindgallery.com/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/w/rw016.jpg > > >> Math is about a very specific aspect of sense - the sense which objects >> make when we count them. That sense is abstracted into a language which >> extends it beyond literal objects to virtual objects, but no matter what >> you do with math, it has no subjective interior. It's about doing and >> knowing that is desired by what which is already feeling and being. Doing >> and knowing by itself, if such a thing could exist, would be information, >> but it could never feel or be anything. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
