On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >> >> "If it's all math, then where does math come from?" >> >> Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it >> is a fact that 1+1=2. >> >> > These shapes appear to be letters and words also, but they aren't. All it > takes is a small chemical change in your brain and 1+1 could = mustard. > Even in a completely normative state of mind, 1+1 = 2 doesn't apply to > everything. Once cloud plus one cloud equals one large cloud, or maybe one > raining cloud. > (I'll try to elaborate and clarify in MSR terms; apologies if I get it wrong or miss the topic, as it is very high level stuff...) And since every raindrop can in principle be assigned to a cloud, the number of raindrops equals the number of possible clouds which also equal one (because normative brain cloud), which equals two (as sense " is abstracted into a language which extends it beyond literal objects to virtual objects with no subjective interior", so who cares, right?), which equals mustard in your sense brain individuality map, which isn't the territory, as you all know by now. I just asked my mustard bottle in the fridge, and it confirmed no desire for a subjective interior feeling of being, with its silence. Why would an entity be silent if it had subjective interior feeling? You don't think mustard bottles chat on internet lists about their internal state while staying silent via some mustard-yellow-spicy-wireless LAN emergent qualia fridge intelligence, do you? Ha, gottcha! That's where we miss perhaps the subtleties of MSR. I really wish this would be the final word and champion MSR as the final TOE, because the day we can convince our banks of this point, everybody with a positive balance becomes infinitely rich and everybody with negative balance gets some fuzzy amount of mustard. Maybe then I could afford the time to thoroughly understand MSR's main points, which again, as enumerated and therefore arithmetic points, all abstract themselves into a language which extend it beyond literal objects to virtual objects with no subjective interior desire territories, thus boiling it down to one brain point.... wherein, to my amazement, Silicon Valley, MSR, NSA meet, chanting: "the cloud!" The cloud as the mustard of sense. But I don't know if I have that time to really grasp MSR yet. It's my first post working with it... so how am I doing, Craig? PGC > Math is about a very specific aspect of sense - the sense which objects > make when we count them. That sense is abstracted into a language which > extends it beyond literal objects to virtual objects, but no matter what > you do with math, it has no subjective interior. It's about doing and > knowing that is desired by what which is already feeling and being. Doing > and knowing by itself, if such a thing could exist, would be information, > but it could never feel or be anything. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
