> On 4 Mar 2014, at 3:07 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>
>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 3 Mar 2014, at 8:53 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> What is it, Bruno, about 3 beats to the bar that precisely, irrefutably
>>>> describes to my mind a circle?
>>>
>>> You tell me.
>>>
>>> Bruno
>>
>> Sure. I think it is this:
>>
>> http://youtu.be/AP_CSQgBPpQ
>>
>> The angel and the devil both pumping The Wheel of Fortune. Note that once
>> you pull on the wheel, it turns. This generates "fate". Could a triangle do
>> the trick as well?
>
> If you spin the triangle along an extra dimension and want to avoid the 4
> corners of a pyramid, keeping things 3, you get a cone :-) Perhaps "the cone
> of the fate of the waltz", without taking these linguistic tags too seriously.
>
> I guess 3 is rhythmically round for its innate properties, including the
> vicinity of two overly symmetric neighbors: 2 and 4. Usually, you'd think the
> even values are rounder and feminine and odd ones the opposite, but 2 and 4
> are quite the male tyrants of symmetry. If they managed to eliminate 3, we
> have no more waltzes, or children skipping in the 1-2-3-1-2-3 from side to
> side, instead of the marching, symmetry-obsessed gait of 2 and 4.
>
> For the unconvinced: draw a circle in the air continuously and count 1-2-3
> over and over, hitting 12 o'clock (or any distinct spot of your circle),
> every time you hit 1, in your counting. Now try this with counting to 2.
> Speed things up a bit and you see that 2 will quickly reduce itself to some
> back-and-forth thing and make your circles tend towards less roundness.
> Similar with four.
>
> But three keeps your circles and the skipping/dancing we do round: a boy
> skipping, or having a rounder walk, is seen as effeminate by bigots. It's
> consistent from this procedural rhythmical perspective that π is some kind of
> 3. If you want a song that evokes spins, you need 3 here.
>
> A carousel spinning with music in 4s or 2s is just wrong. Complain to the
> operator. Their ride will be more attractive and correct on this level ;-) PGC
>
>
That's all right on the money, PGC. Recall now the scene of the orbital space
station in Kubrick's "2001" - he chose to illustrate this gigantic wheeling
object in space with Strauss's "Blue Danube" waltz which of course has nothing
whatsoever to do with space stations, but could not be replaced in that movie
with any music that works better. Curiously, Kubrick commissioned Hollywood
composer Alex North to compose an entire bespoke score for this film which
Kubrick rejected completely when he heard bits of it. I too have heard it
(Jerry Goldsmith had it recorded and released a lot later) and the cue North
wrote for this scene is paltry compared to the effect of the Strauss.
Concerning 3, circles and waltzes, the waltz itself is surely a kind of "dance
of the solar system" in that each couple turn around each other in small
circles like planets and moons orbiting each other while the entire dance floor
wheels around in a greater circle like the solar system or indeed the galaxy
K
>>
>> K
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