On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 4 Mar 2014, at 9:48 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > Without listening to that (since I'm at work) I am under the impression > that "Carmina Burana" is, at the beginning at least, 4 beats to the bar, > not 3? > > > > Maybe I missed the point. I am not "musical" (except that I like listening > to music). > > > > You would have to be halfway musical to even pick up on that! Indeed "O > Fortuna" (the first song of Orff's "Carmina Burana") is cast in 3 beats to > the bar at the opening, certainly when it gets fully under way... > Yes, for these beginning measures of "O Fortuna"; but Orff was like Stravinsky and their successors with playing around with meter, especially when you look at the whole work: meter can and does change at any moment. Not least because of the conversational/prose character of the texts as basis. This plus frequent caesura use makes it so "prose-like, naturally conversational" and the rhythmic complexity (frequent changes in meter of two, threes, fives, fours, sevens) under the hood is not simple to discern, without a deeper look. Fun stuff :-) PGC > > I just checked it on the full orchestral score. This is interesting > because the "threeness" of this huge opening is not explicit, which is what > I was saying earlier. "Beat" in music is simple arithmatic, yet even with > such simple resources as ordinal numbers associating with each other > (somehow!) to produce these qualia that gives me an aesthetic impression of > circularity is already incredibly advanced and difficult to describe. Tis > the magic of the numbers. > > Music IS numbers, but the qualia it induces in my consciousness are > something else. If I understand that part of comp correctly. > > K > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > ============================ > > Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL > > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: 0450 963 719 > Landline: 02 9389 4239 > Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com > > "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
