On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:21:15 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>
> All,
>
> An empty space within which events occur does not exist. There is no 
> universal fixed pre-existing empty space common to all events and observers.
>

I agree.
 

>
> Why? Because we cannot establish its existence by any observation 
> whatsoever. We NEVER observe such an empty space. All we actually observe 
> is interactions between particulate matter and energy.
>

Not so fast. All we *actually* observe is interactions within our own 
sensory modalities and meta-sensory-interpretations. What we observe is 
always a "sense of matter and energy", just as these patterns of pixels on 
screen are a "sense of English words make of the Latin alphabet". To 
someone who can only read Thai script, these are just squiggly characters 
in a foreign language. To a baby who does not know what language is, they 
are not anything but a lot of graphics. Indeed the "patterns" and "pixels" 
and "screen" are also another kind of text, read by our lower level senses 
- through the focus of human eyes, through our body's ability to connect 
with the kinds of radiation being emitted from the technology, etc.
 

> In fact, all observations ARE interactions of particulate matter or energy,
>

We don't know that.
 

> they are never observations of empty space itself.
>
> Thus we cannot ever observe a pre-existing empty space, all we can observe 
> is particulate interactions which have what we call dimensional 
> relationships mandated by conservation laws.
>
> But these dimensional relationships DO NOT EXIST UNTIL THEY OCCUR, and 
> they are not observed until they are measured. Thus any notion of space 
> based on these dimensional relationships can be said to EMERGE from 
> particulate interactions rather than pre-existing as something they occur 
> within.
>
> So what we call empty space is really just the mathematical rules imposed 
> by the conservation laws that govern particulate interactions. It is a 
> computational structure rather than a physical structure.
>
> This again is another strong indication that everything really occurs at 
> the fundamental level as computations of pure abstract information in a 
> logico-mathematical space prior to dimensionality and prior to physicality, 
> and that dimensionality is something that EMERGES from these computations 
> rather than a pre-existing background to them...
>

Then emergence becomes the only part of the universe that matters, and it 
is unexplained by mathematics.

Craig
 

>
>
> Now once we understand that dimensionality EMERGES PIECEWISE FROM 
> information computations encoding particulate interactions we have the key 
> to resolving all quantum paradox, unifying QT and GR and explaining the 
> source of Quantum randomness.
>
>
> But no one here is interested in how that happens, or are they afraid to 
> tackle it? Perhaps because Edgar might be right on this one and that would 
> be a bitter pill to swallow? We will see if anyone dares take up the 
> challenge!
> :-)
>
> Edgar
>

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