On 3/7/2014 1:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Mar 2014, at 10:04, Bruno Marchal wrote (to Brent):
On 07 Mar 2014, at 06:29, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/6/2014 9:15 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
A related question is, is there any such thing as true randomness at all? Or is every
case of true randomness an instance of FPI?
Or is FPI just a convoluted way to pretend there isn't true randomness?
What do you mean by "true randomness"?
I have no problem with that notion, though. I use it in the sense of total
arbitrariness. I illustrate this by giving my favorite binary true random sequence: it is
1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111...
It is the "true random sequence" of the superlucky guy (or super unlucky , in case he
bet on zero!).
But for the FPI, for example in the iterated WM-duplication, all you need is too
realize that the the vast majority of 1p experienced experience is
algorithmic-incompressible. That is random enough.
Hmm, Brent, you were perhaps meaning by "true randomness" the following:
1) you assume a 3p primitive physical reality,
2) you assume it can contain primitive, irreducible random events.
I'm not sure what 1) means. I was hypothesizing (not assuming) 2).
That is logically consistent, so I am agnostic, but I believe that invoking such "true
randomness" in an explanation is just a god-of-the-gap type of explanation. it is like
"don't ask" or "don't try to understand".
It is more like, "Some things just happen."...like a UD.
Brent
I feel close to Einstein on this, who define "insanity" by the belief in such "true 3p
randomness". I don't push it that far though.
Bruno
Bruno
Brent
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