On 9 March 2014 12:53, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 3/8/2014 3:41 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 9 March 2014 08:50, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  On 3/8/2014 12:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>> The existence of the UD is a consequence of elementary axioms in
>> arithmetic (like x+0=x, etc.).
>>
>>  I can't hardly imagine something less random than that.
>>
>>
>> But we don't know that it exists.  ISTM that rejecting the possibility of
>> randomness in the world is just dogma.  Of course we can study and try to
>> understand and minimize randomness is our theories - but I see no reason to
>> simply rule it out because we don't like it; especially by hyposthesizing
>> an unobservable and untestable everythingism.  I like your theory, but not
>> because it avoids randomness (as Everett does too), but because it seems to
>> address the mind-body problem.
>>
>>
> It's hard to imagine a mechanism for randomness, especially one that
> doesn't involve hidden variables. Any suggestions?
>
>
> To me, a mechanism for intrinsic randomness sounds like a contradiction.
>
>
Exactly.

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