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From: [email protected] 
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>>Jesus, Chris. You must think that people all fit into nice little shoe boxes, 
>>easily, applied taxonimies.  Yea vearilly, no.

No.... just people, like you, who make non-sensical assertions such as: because 
they can hear tweety birds in their backyard, the global extinction rate cannot 
possibly be at 10,000 times the average background rate of extinction on this 
planet, because otherwise how could there still be tweety birds for our 
scientific observer to hear? 
Recent studies have estimated that there are around eukaryotic  8.7 million 
species on the planet -- and this is just the eukaryotic species (and then 
there are many millions of additional species of Archaea, Bacteria and all 
those proto-alive  viruses). How many of these species do you think you can see 
in your backyard?
Does it begin to dawn in your head why I don't take you seriously at all? For, 
if you confuse such kind of anecdotal BS for science you are profoundly 
ignorant of what science is, both in its ideal sense and even to quite an 
extent in its imperfect day to day practice. And when you mix your profound 
ignorance of science -- based on how you rely on laughably non-scientific 
"surveys" as the rather flippant and non-thinking basis for -- in this 
particular case -- your assertion that the extinction rates cannot possibly be 
that high, because you have song birds in your backyard.... mix it in with your 
heartfelt vocation towards preaching your Tea Party screed... to anyone and 
everyone (as if you were a talking point conveyance mechanism) it begins to 
become rather unpleasant.... for me at least.
Not everyone, spudboy, just you.
Chris


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From: Chris de Morsella <[email protected]>

        From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


>>Yes indeed! And the acid rain is a-pouring down, and everyone's face is 
>>a-sizzlin and a-popin from the sulphur, and the Ozone hole is a-lettin in the 
>>gamma rays, and the BP oil spill has a-wiped out all the shrimp, and the 
>>Germans is now a-making all their Mercedes with sunlight, and the oceans is 
>>a-risin, and a makin me a-drown, here in Ohio, and the spotted owl is a 
>>knocking over liquor stores cause we destroyed their natural habitat, now 
>>they're on food stamps! You know, one time the little boy will cry wolf, and 
>>you will be right, but nobody will listen, because as an act of green faith, 
>>you have been pushing the message once too often. Sir, I cannot partake of 
>>you Green Rites Church, but rest assured,I do read the literature.


Are you a bible thumper? Certainly helps explain your gross ignorance of the 
scientific method.
Chris
-----Original Message-----From: Chris de Morsella
<[email protected]>To: everything-list
<[email protected]>Sent: 11-Mar-2014 17:10:21 
+0000Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

        From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

>>I hopefully, wouldn't think that there's a tea party or libertarian view of 
>>science. The libertarians, unless I am wrong, are 100% pro-science, many 
>>atheists, and all that. Your 10000 extinction rate claim appears specious, 
>>because if this was the case, not a tweet bird wouldn't exist, nor we be 
>>doing the Everything List two-step. 


Precisely -- that is YOUR GUESS. You are basically admitting that you are too 
lazy to do the research and investigate the available public domain information 
and data that exists, and that has been compiled for over a hundred and fifty 
years or more with increasing accuracy and quantity of data over time. You 
demonstrate a total lack of understanding of just how many species of life 
exist on this planet -- hint it is far greater than the census of song birds in 
your back yard.
What you just admit you did -- to form your opinion -- is not science, but a 
shallow anecdotal impression your Tea Party addled brain feels comfortable 
with. Your opinion is worthless. And so is mine. Fortunately there is a vast 
body of field data, of biological censuses taken over time. The figure of 
100,000 times the background rate of extinction is derived from this body of 
existing data; It is also rather more rigorous than your anecdotal "certainty".
Do you really wish to continue making an idiot of yourself? 


>>My guess is that whatever the human species is doing it is killing off lots 
>>of fauna and plants, especially in the hungry countries that want their 
>>people to live better, materially. Having said that, it isn't 10000 times 
>>etc. If the greens were sane, and I submit they are all limbic,

More of your bovine (unsupported anecdotal)  opinions.... it must be very 
self-affirming to live in this fact free world; where beliefs become reality by 
being fervently believed.
Chris







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