On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:08:00 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
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> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg 
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>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
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>>> If there is nothing other than sensing, then why use all the pronouns 
>>> and nouns you do? There are no objects... so why would we need nouns and 
>>> how would the notion of a theory even work, given that a theory is a 
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>> There are no objects without sense, but certainly there is the sense of 
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> How do they arise from primordial sense, or what is their relation to it?
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Imagine an object - like a hammer. How did the hammer arise? How does the 
question "how" arise?
 

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>> Given sufficient distance between one sensory episode and another
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> How does distance, episode, and arithmetic succession arise from 
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Primordial sense develops a sense of insensitivity to relate to itself. The 
relation is nested symmetry.

 
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>> , one may encounter the other as if it were an object rather than a 
>> feeling. Episodes which are much slower and faster than our 
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> How does "we" from your use of "our" arise from primordial sense, or what 
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Through nested insensitivity. I call it the Big Diffraction. Sense 
fragments itself through temporary insensitivities (episodes/entropies) 
which are gradually re-integrated (non-primordial sense, personal qualia, 
perception within spacetime, etc). The sense of the insensitivity of 
re-integration is what we call computation or information.
 

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>> episode are presented as objectified mechanical tropes...structures, 
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> How do languages emerge from primordial sense, or what is the relation to 
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Languages of living creatures? I would guess they emerge through as high 
level motives (communication between complex experiences) to overcome low 
level accumulations of entropy/insensitivity (separate bodies).

Craig
 

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>>> You can't strike gold if sense contradicts its existence. PGC
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>> Contradiction requires sense to 'exist'.
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>>>>>>> I'll now watch the clip you posted!
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