On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> > On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote: > >> >> On 14 Mar 2014, at 1:12 pm, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Information must be made evident through sensory participation, or it is >> nothing at all. >> >> >> Craig, you have just explained to me the basis of my discalculia. No one >> else has ever managed to do that in all my 57 years. >> > > Cool! Thanks Kim. > > >> >> Music was always instantaneously understandable to me because of the way >> it gained my deep sensory participation whereas mathematics was always just >> a bunch of squiggles on paper that to me were as dry as dust and as >> terrifyingly remote as Egyptian hieroglyphs. Math evoked no sensuous >> universe of qualia - for me. I have often felt that for those with a high >> degree of numeracy, that the hieroglyphs of mathematics evoke the same >> sensory participation as music does for me. Bruno, for example composes and >> reads mathematical sentences with the same ease as I have in listening to >> even quite complex music and writing it down from ear in standard music >> notation. I sometimes refer to myself as a "mathemusician". >> > > Yes, my wife is a musician and I have picked up a little from her about > the different kinds of personalities in an orchestra. > And Craig still appeals to the authority of what his wife has studied, not indicating what/who is doing the sensing in his theory, just pointing to the irreducible relations of "patterns that are not even patterns", "computers host meaningless patterns that we find significant" (like hosts of a dinner party? But then they would sense things, a host understands his own function etc.) I'll never understand you on those terms. But on your website, I do find a lot of Bruno's terminology and formulations of problems. Maybe one day you will have the class to acknowledge that Bruno and comp have helped you articulate or conceive of certain things in fresh ways, at least. But I wouldn't count on it. PGC > Being able to improvise is a different kind of talent than being able to > read and interpret music written on a page. > By measure of your own theory of sense experience: do YOU have experience in either? > Music theory is different from music performance. > Yes, that's why we use different words, obviously. But from your theory: explain why both appear necessary and provide some definition of music (what and who is sensing) We all have different ranges of sensitivity and some people are able to > 'hear the music' inside an equation, while others perform incredible > mathematical feats just by swinging a tennis racket. > Some people like to fish in muddy waters and sometimes they find gold there... They also sometimes tell other people of their "great catch", without convincing evidence/explanations. PGC > Craig > > >> >> I'll now watch the clip you posted! >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >> Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL >> >> Email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Mobile: 0450 963 719 >> Phone: 02 93894239 >> Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com >> >> >> *"Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain* >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
