On 3/23/2014 11:30 PM, LizR wrote:
On 24 March 2014 17:41, meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 3/23/2014 8:57 PM, LizR wrote:
    /Is/ DNA a universal programming language?

    I'm not sure what a "universal programming language" means.  Just 1s and 0s 
are
    enough language.  I think you probably mean to ask is whether a cell is a 
universal
    computer with DNA as the program.  I don't know if there's been a formal 
proof but
    it almost certainly is. Making a universal computer is pretty easy.  
Wolfram's rule
    110 produces a universal computer in one dimension with only two colors and 
nearest
    neighbor rules.

I'm quoting the paper at http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7E>*chaitin*/*darwin*.pdf

(See section 9)

Presumably DNA is a universal programming language, but how sophisticated can mutations be in actual biological organisms?


That seems like a strange question. Mutations are "errors" by definition and are random. So what does it mean to ask how sophisticated they can be? Obviously they can accumulate as errors in DNA copying without doing anything and then be "activated" by one more error.

In this connection, note that evo-devo views DNA as software for constructing the embryo, and that the change from single-celled to multicellular organisms is roughly like taking a main program and making it into a subroutine, which is a fairly high-level

mutation. Could this be the reason that it took so long|on the order of 109 years|for this to happen


Sure, although 1e9yr seems pretty quick to me. The eukaryote cell is already tremendously complicated, just becoming multicellular doesn't seem like such a big step to me.

Brent

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