On 9 April 2014 12:51, chris peck <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> >> It would still be a logical fallacy to proclaim something to be true
> because of who said it, rather than what was said.
>
> * >> I think Liz has clarified what is actually being claimed here.*
>
> Liz is under the misconception that I argue that climate change advocates
> only use this consensus figure. My argument is not that, it is that when
> they use this consensus figure they commit a logical fallacy.
>
> It relates to my argument that climate change advocates are as prone to
> logical fallacy and conspiracy theory as climate change deniers. This
> relates to the study that was pulled from the journal which in my view is
> as politically orientated a study as there can be. It only investigates
> those conspiracies dreamt up by climate change deniers and has nothing to
> say about how conspiracy theories are used to deflect attention from
> science generally. Ofcourse, when climate change advocates portray a
> climate change denier who is challenging the actual science as being 'in
> the bed of oil barons', they are doing precisely the same thing. When they
> dismiss what the climate change denier argues because '97% of scientists
> agree' they commit a fallacy. This latest row was trigger by nothing more
> controversial than that.
>

OK, I'm quite happy to accept that they may be committing a logical
fallacies - but I can't work out what it is from what you say here.

So, to put it in simple terms (I hope) ...

If in some general discussion of climate change someone says (as a
convenient shorthand) that "97% of climate scientists agree that AGW is a
fact", what is the logical fallacy they are committing? I'd like to know so
I can avoid it in future myself.

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