On 4/14/2014 11:35 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:



On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:




    On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

            3) You assume that going against your simple reproductive program 
will cause
            suffering

            This is a weird assumption. Consider this: you cannot decide to stop
            breathing. Your brain literally won't let you. So evolution did not 
select
            breathing to be an optional behaviour. But it did select breading 
to be an
            optional behaviour. Otherwise there would be a whole lot more rape, 
just
            like in most of the animal kingdom.


        You are right of course that the human evolutionary 'program' is 
different from
        that of almost all mammmals.  But if it were like other mammmals there 
wouldn't
        be more rape.  There is seldom rape among mammals because the female 
becomes
        receptive when she ovulates and readily accepts males and otherwise she 
is not
        sexually attractive to the males.  Humans and bonobos are unusual among 
mammals
        in that females are sexually receptive even when not ovulating.  This is
        probably an evolutionary adaptation to achieve couple bonding which is 
useful in
        raising a child that takes many years to become self-sufficient.  I 
recommend
        the book by Jared Diamond "Why is Sex Fun?".


    You are right, of course. I got too carried away in that hyperbole.
    Added your recommendation to my reading list.

    Bonobos are very interesting, I've read before about how they display many 
of the
    sexual behaviours that are considered "unnatural" or "deviant" by our 
religious friends.


That's why we keep 'em out of zoos. Protect the children from these deviant freaks of nature unholy! :-) PGC

Sex between a man and a woman is a beautiful thing. But between a man and a woman and a dog, a goat, and two chickens it's fantastic!
    --- Woody Allen

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