On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> 3) You assume that going against your simple reproductive program will
>> cause suffering
>>
>> This is a weird assumption. Consider this: you cannot decide to stop
>> breathing. Your brain literally won't let you. So evolution did not select
>> breathing to be an optional behaviour. But it did select breading to be an
>> optional behaviour. Otherwise there would be a whole lot more rape, just
>> like in most of the animal kingdom.
>>
>
> You are right of course that the human evolutionary 'program' is different
> from that of almost all mammmals.  But if it were like other mammmals there
> wouldn't be more rape.  There is seldom rape among mammals because the
> female becomes receptive when she ovulates and readily accepts males and
> otherwise she is not sexually attractive to the males.  Humans and bonobos
> are unusual among mammals in that females are sexually receptive even when
> not ovulating.  This is probably an evolutionary adaptation to achieve
> couple bonding which is useful in raising a child that takes many years to
> become self-sufficient.  I recommend the book by Jared Diamond "Why is Sex
> Fun?".
>
>
You are right, of course. I got too carried away in that hyperbole.
Added your recommendation to my reading list.

Bonobos are very interesting, I've read before about how they display many
of the sexual behaviours that are considered "unnatural" or "deviant" by
our religious friends.

Thanks
Telmo.



> Brent
>
>
>  Why was optional breading selected? We can speculate. It is quite obvious
>> that the "niche" that humans explore is superior adaptation. We are not
>> particularly strong nor particularly resilient, nor can we run particularly
>> fast. But we can adapt very quickly to a wide range of circumstances. At
>> some point there was a choice between optional/non-optional in
>> reproduction. Optional won. You ignore this.
>>
>
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