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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:38 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.

 

 

 

On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

On 4/18/2014 7:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

What society thinks has nothing to do with it, because weak
correlation-based scientific evidence is used selectively to create laws
that were desired a priori by some interest group.

That implies some nefarious motive and corrupt use of data known to be
wrong.  In fact there was no nefarious 'interest group' that wanted to ban
marijuana or to ban alcohol or to ban heroin.  All these bans were initiated
by people who believed in the ill effects of these substances for
individuals and for society.  In many cases they had personal experience.
That the bans may have given rise to criminal activities to circumvent them,
isn't to the point of their origin.

 

 

I never claimed that any data was wrong. What I said was that correlations
are weak evidence, and that many studies show correlation for all sorts of
things. Furthermore, these correlations are used selectively when it comes
to legislating. For this we have hard evidence: there is much stronger
scientific evidence against alcohol and tobacco than cannabis, yet the
former are legal while the latter is illegal.

 

Exactly - weak correlations can be found for almost anything if you look
hard enough. 

Chris

 

In the UK, Professor David Nutt was sacked from his position as chairman of
the government advisory board on the misuse of drugs for analysing
scientific evidence and coming to the conclusion that alcohol was more
dangerous than ecstasy, LSD and cannabis:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/30/drugs-adviser-david-nutt-sac
ked

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/29/nutt-drugs-policy-reform-cal
l?guni=Article:in%20body%20link

 

Then, the cultivation of industrial help -- which is not psychoactive -- was
also made illegal. Industrial has a wide range of applications: paper,
fabric, building material and cheap protein source, to name a few. It
threatens several industries and it is not a narcotic. How do you explain
that?

 

Telmo.

 


Brent

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