On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed
> have a well fitting definition of religious?
>

Dear John,

I don't have a good definition. I do have a distinction though: good
religious feelings come from contemplating how much we don't know, bad ones
come from pretending we know what we don't.

Cheers,
Telmo.


>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
>>>
>>> Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who
>>> believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is
>>> interesting to find that though the scriptures may be ancient, yet they are
>>> still relevant to modern age / scientific knowledge, and thus should not be
>>> discarded, rather a careful study has much to offer to those seeking a
>>> Theory of Everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruno's a big proponent of studying theology; so maybe you'll convince
>>> him.
>>>
>>> Not trying to convince anyone. Just sharing so that whoever finds it
>>> worth considering considers.
>>> Samiya
>>>
>>>
>>> The only thing you are sharing on this list is your deep personal
>>> emotional need for people to show respect for your "holy book". Like all
>>> those smitten by some ancient text, you are only vaguely concealing the
>>> fact that you are out to proselytise for your favourite religion. You are
>>> clearly a soldier in the army of Islam and you are out to convert the
>>> infidel. I must say you are getting pretty boring. You have tried every
>>> conceivable angle by now to fixate everyone onto the Qu'ran and you simply
>>> won't give up until people love you for your deep religious fervour. Buddy
>>> - it simply ain't gonna happen in this place. You are not advancing
>>> anything other than arguments from authority as you have been told multiple
>>> times by now. This kind of thing cannot be concealed by any amount of
>>> contrived scholarly nonsense, most of which serves only to bore people on
>>> this list to death, mainly because of the selective and tendentious
>>> reasoning behind your posts. I'm afraid there isn't much meat in your
>>> sandwich.
>>>
>>
>> I had a friend from Saudi Arabia who opened a cafe* near my house at the
>> time. He practiced Islam but was very discrete about it. He was a smart
>> guy, and willing to discuss his beliefs without any intent to proselytise.
>> He never started that conversation, I was the one curious about it. Once he
>> was insisting with me that I should try some new import beer that he just
>> got. I asked him how could he encourage me to drink, if he was my friend
>> and believed that to be a sin. He said: "you are lucky. you don't know any
>> better, so Allah doesn't mind". So I follow his advice to this day and
>> steer clear of any religious enlightenment that could interfere with life's
>> little pleasures! :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Telmo.
>>
>> * in the european sense, so it also served booze
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Kim Jones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Brent
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