On 03 May 2014, at 11:46, Telmo Menezes wrote:




On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed have a well fitting definition of religious?

Dear John,

I don't have a good definition. I do have a distinction though: good religious feelings come from contemplating how much we don't know, bad ones come from pretending we know what we don't.

Very nice.
Actually even pretending that we know what we know, in the religious field, lead to bad religion.

Bruno




Cheers,
Telmo.



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:


On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:



On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is interesting to find that though the scriptures may be ancient, yet they are still relevant to modern age / scientific knowledge, and thus should not be discarded, rather a careful study has much to offer to those seeking a Theory of Everything.

Bruno's a big proponent of studying theology; so maybe you'll convince him.

Not trying to convince anyone. Just sharing so that whoever finds it worth considering considers.
Samiya

The only thing you are sharing on this list is your deep personal emotional need for people to show respect for your "holy book". Like all those smitten by some ancient text, you are only vaguely concealing the fact that you are out to proselytise for your favourite religion. You are clearly a soldier in the army of Islam and you are out to convert the infidel. I must say you are getting pretty boring. You have tried every conceivable angle by now to fixate everyone onto the Qu'ran and you simply won't give up until people love you for your deep religious fervour. Buddy - it simply ain't gonna happen in this place. You are not advancing anything other than arguments from authority as you have been told multiple times by now. This kind of thing cannot be concealed by any amount of contrived scholarly nonsense, most of which serves only to bore people on this list to death, mainly because of the selective and tendentious reasoning behind your posts. I'm afraid there isn't much meat in your sandwich.

I had a friend from Saudi Arabia who opened a cafe* near my house at the time. He practiced Islam but was very discrete about it. He was a smart guy, and willing to discuss his beliefs without any intent to proselytise. He never started that conversation, I was the one curious about it. Once he was insisting with me that I should try some new import beer that he just got. I asked him how could he encourage me to drink, if he was my friend and believed that to be a sin. He said: "you are lucky. you don't know any better, so Allah doesn't mind". So I follow his advice to this day and steer clear of any religious enlightenment that could interfere with life's little pleasures! :)

Cheers,
Telmo.

* in the european sense, so it also served booze


Kim Jones




Brent

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