Liz, I am guessing the capitalism remark is undeserved, in the sense that making money is inherently evil (making goods, and providing services?), for me that is too broad a brush you paint with for that observation. Now, if you want a glaring example, we look to the millions killed by Belgium (Heart of Darkness) which was driven by the need for cheap rubber from plantations in central africa. The death toll for the rubber plantations is estimated at 8 million over 20 years. We both need to ask if the commies, nazis, and ww2 japanese, were also part-capitalists. Stalin, before ww2, and even after did capitalist (westerners) trade deals, and millions died. Was IG Farben evil because it was 'capitalist,' or because they were nazis? What about Mao, and what about North Korean trade deals? Kim sure is not capitalist is he?
Maybe the fault lies not in the 'ism' strictly, but in ourselves? Yep, the religions known as Stalinism and Nazism were just as destructive as the Crusades, etc. In fact anything ending in "Ism" seems to be a justification for murder or cruelty. (It looks like Capitalism is catching up with the others, and may soon surpass all of them if we aren't careful.) -----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 7:15 pm Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 20th century the political movement that had atheism at its core, was the Marxist ideology, and how many tens of millions did it destroy, 70 mil, 100? Not a bad catchup I'd say. The "pagan" faiths, previous to, and coexistent with the Abe religions were not pacifist either and were hungry for land, slaves, and murder, just like the Abe's, and even worse. Pagan Rome employed crucifixion, remember? The ancient Chinese, were plenty, murderous, as well. In the Americas and Africa, as far as archaeologists and physical anthropologists, have determined, and were, what I term as being 'genocide friendly.' None of the species were really nice guys for much of the time.. Yep, the religions known as Stalinism and Nazism were just as destructive as the Crusades, etc. In fact anything ending in "Ism" seems to be a justification for murder or cruelty. (It looks like Capitalism is catching up with the others, and may soon surpass all of them if we aren't careful.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
