On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote:
On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]
> wrote:
I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the
centuries, but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either.
In the 20th century the political movement that had atheism at its
core, was the Marxist ideology, and how many tens of millions did it
destroy, 70 mil, 100? Not a bad catchup I'd say. The "pagan" faiths,
previous to, and coexistent with the Abe religions were not pacifist
either and were hungry for land, slaves, and murder, just like the
Abe's, and even worse. Pagan Rome employed crucifixion, remember?
The ancient Chinese, were plenty, murderous, as well. In the
Americas and Africa, as far as archaeologists and physical
anthropologists, have determined, and were, what I term as being
'genocide friendly.' None of the species were really nice guys for
much of the time..
Yep, the religions known as Stalinism and Nazism were just as
destructive as the Crusades, etc. In fact anything ending in "Ism"
seems to be a justification for murder or cruelty. (It looks like
Capitalism is catching up with the others, and may soon surpass all
of them if we aren't careful.)
Some "ism" can be good and nice, but even in that case, after a while,
some people will use it and pervert it for special/personal interest.
Always. Then criticizing the "ism" protects them, somehow.
For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you
allow money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through
financial helps. If you allow this, you kill capitalism, and transform
it into corporatism and monopolism, which kill the "genuine"
competition and eventually the society.
The real war is between the good guy and the bad guy. There is no
"ism" capable of guaranty the good, but allowing some "ism" to compete
fairly, allow them to evolve and this is harm reduction. Now, if some
same "ism" lasts too long, it get rotten and as good as it could have
been, it will be perverted by some special interest.
But the problem here is not the "ism" itself. The problem is in the
human addiction to money or power.
To compete fairly needs good separation of all powers, good renewing
of powers, etc.
Today there are powerful interest fighting against such separation,
and the internet itself can be in peril. Don't hesitate to sign
petitions against it. I put links on my facebook page (*).
If we don't remain vigilant, we get the "ism" that we can tolerate
until it is too late.
Bruno
(*) https://www.facebook.com/Bruno.Marchal24
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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