On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: > > On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >> but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 20th >> century the political movement that had atheism at its core, was the >> Marxist ideology, and how many tens of millions did it destroy, 70 mil, >> 100? Not a bad catchup I'd say. The "pagan" faiths, previous to, and >> coexistent with the Abe religions were not pacifist either and were hungry >> for land, slaves, and murder, just like the Abe's, and even worse. Pagan >> Rome employed crucifixion, remember? The ancient Chinese, were plenty, >> murderous, as well. In the Americas and Africa, as far as archaeologists >> and physical anthropologists, have determined, and were, what I term as >> being 'genocide friendly.' None of the species were really nice guys for >> much of the time.. > > > Yep, the religions known as Stalinism and Nazism were just as destructive > as the Crusades, etc. In fact anything ending in "Ism" seems to be a > justification for murder or cruelty. (It looks like Capitalism is catching > up with the others, and may soon surpass all of them if we aren't careful.) > > > Some "ism" can be good and nice, but even in that case, after a while, > some people will use it and pervert it for special/personal interest. > Always. Then criticizing the "ism" protects them, somehow. > > For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you allow > money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through financial helps. > If you allow this, you kill capitalism, and transform it into corporatism > and monopolism, which kill the "genuine" competition and eventually the > society. > Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is not under the control of the market, so the system is non-capitalist at its core. Bitcoin is an attempt at real capitalism, it remains to be seen if it can survive. > > The real war is between the good guy and the bad guy. There is no "ism" > capable of guaranty the good, but allowing some "ism" to compete fairly, > allow them to evolve and this is harm reduction. Now, if some same "ism" > lasts too long, it get rotten and as good as it could have been, it will be > perverted by some special interest. > > But the problem here is not the "ism" itself. The problem is in the human > addiction to money or power. > > To compete fairly needs good separation of all powers, good renewing of > powers, etc. > > Today there are powerful interest fighting against such separation, and > the internet itself can be in peril. Don't hesitate to sign petitions > against it. I put links on my facebook page (*). > > If we don't remain vigilant, we get the "ism" that we can tolerate until > it is too late. > > Bruno > > (*) https://www.facebook.com/Bruno.Marchal24 > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
