On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:48 PM, <ghib...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:43:12 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote:
>>
>> The machine:
>> http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1
>>
>> Bad news from the doctor:
>> http://existentialcomics.com/comic/11
>>
>> Turing test:
>> http://existentialcomics.com/comic/15
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Telmo.
>>
>
>
> So where do you stand on this Telmo? I suppose I've rather raised my hopes
> that your answer, like mine, is not straight forward.
>

I have no explanation for consciousness. My current inclination is
panpsychism.


>  Maybe just because I'm just lonely since Liz walked out on me...this
> vague cloud of abstraction never seemed so cavernous when she was around,
> her 70's punk echoing through the  theory of nothing that - well you know
> itt wasn't a theory, but maybe  it wasn't nuthin' neither.
>

Hey, I like 70's punk rock too!


>
> Seriously, I saw a hint of scientific realism in something you said at
> some point. Nearly vanished but managed to block my ears when you started
> talking about consciousness not between the ears. Don't do that.
>

I believe that science is the only valid tool we have to understand public
reality. If you have a good "consciousness between the ears" theory then...
I'm all ears. Other theories are ok too. My position is that what makes a
theory scientific is it's falsifiability, that's all. It doesn't matter how
weird the theory sounds, it only matters if it makes valid predictions or
not. Common sense has been shown to be misleading many times, and to an
amazing degree with quantum mechanics.

I am not sure that consciousness will ever be investigated by science,
because I'm not sure it will ever be possible to measure it or test for
it's presence. In this case (or meanwhile), we have to make do with thought
experiments and introspection on private reality.

Telmo.

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