On 05 May 2014, at 03:57, meekerdb wrote:

It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation.

Bitcoin was at first a way to go around the sickness (the non free- ness) of current capitalism, notably to reflect the demand of drugs and weapon. But they abandoned the weapon market, and apparently it might be perverted in the same ways. Bitcoin is not enough, as long as we tolerate the lies ...

Bruno




Brent

On 5/4/2014 6:12 PM, LizR wrote:
I don't know much about bitcoin, except you can "mine" bitcoins at some expense - to your power bill, your time and the environment. What's the point? (And how does it manipulate the medium of exchange?)


On 5 May 2014 12:34, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
On 5/4/2014 12:38 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is not under the control of the market, so the system is non-capitalist at its core. Bitcoin is an attempt at real capitalism, it remains to be seen if it can survive.

I think that confuses financialism with capitalism. If you can invest in labor and equipment and produce something that returns a profit, you're a capitalist. Bitcoin looks to me like just another attempt to manipulate the medium of exchange and profit from it - a role traditionally taken by Wall Street and the Federal Reserve in the U.S.

Brent
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