On 5/28/2014 6:48 PM, LizR wrote:
On 29 May 2014 13:43, meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 5/28/2014 6:28 PM, LizR wrote:

        
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/innovators/2014/05/140528-lori-marino-dolphins-animals-personhood-blackfish-taiji-science-world/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=link_tw20140528news-lori&utm_campaign=Content&sf3097303=1


    "The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but Can they 
suffer?"
        Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832)


Ah, so consciousness /is/ both more difficult and more important than 
intelligence!

I don't think it's more difficult - I think some very unintelligent animals can suffer. Of course there are different kinds of suffering. I doubt that suffering pain requires human-like consciousness, but suffering existential angst probably does.

Brent

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