If you have any doubts, just look at the scrolling messages underneath.
It's DEFINITELY a spoof!


On 5 June 2014 04:17, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 29 May 2014, at 03:56, meekerdb wrote:
>
>  On 5/28/2014 6:48 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 29 May 2014 13:43, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 5/28/2014 6:28 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/innovators/2014/05/140528-lori-marino-dolphins-animals-personhood-blackfish-taiji-science-world/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=link_tw20140528news-lori&utm_campaign=Content&sf3097303=1
>>>
>>
>> "The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but Can they
>> suffer?"
>>     Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832)
>>
>
> Ah, so consciousness *is* both more difficult and more important than
> intelligence!
>
>
> I don't think it's more difficult - I think some very unintelligent
> animals can suffer.  Of course there are different kinds of suffering. I
> doubt that suffering pain requires human-like consciousness,
>
>
> OK.
>
>
> but suffering existential angst probably does.
>
>
> A funny (or depressive?) video, on a team of scientist explaining to a
> gorilla that he will die:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJkWS4t4l0k
>
> I think it is a sort of april fool, though.
>
> Animals know angst, but probably not the angst of angst. You might need
> languages for that. I am not sure though.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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