No chance you could answer me properly, rather than with answers to straw men?  
                     
 
Not a chance in hell! Do you know why? Because strawmen can be models and 
examples to see how things might work. If we didn't model aircraft on servers, 
they likely would not fly. Three cheers for strawmen!

There is no civilised answer except that the death penalty is wrong.

Ah! You mean there is no answer other than you cannot accept the death penalty. 
Personally, I prefer more primitive revenge methods, but yes, the innocent can 
get murdered by the state. But also I would insist upon better standards for 
our so-called justice system. My question is why do people world wide, hand 
over all this power, to people who have law degrees? Please. Come rule us, for 
we are too scared to take responsibilities for ourselves, yes, control us all. 
Of course this is a different topic. 


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From: LizR <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, May 31, 2014 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Pluto bounces back!



On 1 June 2014 10:36, spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

No, they do count on Babe City, as a golden reward for dying in battle against 
the qufars (infidels) and traitors to Allah. Hot and cold running virgins, 
galore.  The death penalty and civilized thing bothers me a bit. Nations that 
don't seek revenge on predatory people, leave themselves open to being bullied 
themselves-look at Europe. What about the families of the victims? Should they 
not have vengeance? That, of course, is another topic, and can what is 
"civilized" really be enforced. What happens when Liz turns the other cheek and 
a thug caves in her skull? Threating badies with real retaliation might be a 
reasonable thing?



No chance you could answer me properly, rather than with answers to straw men?


Life imprisonment is a deterrent, but it's one that can be partially undone 
when the person imprisoned turns out to be innocent despite the evidence, which 
may after all have been concocted, or just be misleading, or the police not 
doing their job properly. Lots of forensic advances have shown convincted 
murderers to be innocent. You haven't answered this, mainly because you can't. 
There is no civilised answer except that the death penalty is wrong.






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