You may be correct indeed, but if being part of the "civilized world" protects violent, predatory, criminals, including, (drumroll) Islamists and Putin, the I suppose I will demur from being civilized. Most capital crimes, even in Texas, are crimes of passion. I don't see it (no death penalty) as being civilized, I view it as an excuse to be uncaring toward the victim's family.
The USA are alone in this. It's not some uncertain utopia, it has been fully achieved in most of the civilised world. -----Original Message----- From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jun 3, 2014 6:57 am Subject: Re: Pluto bounces back! On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: No death penalties. I am not sure I agree, but if this is the goal, then things need to be done really differently. Hum? Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capital_punishment.PNG The USA are alone in this. It's not some uncertain utopia, it has been fully achieved in most of the civilised world. Telmo. I am not sure what you mean by "to seek my goal". -----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 2, 2014 6:48 pm Subject: Re: Pluto bounces back! On 3 June 2014 10:28, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: To seek your goal I am guessing elements of society, law, and technology, must improve. I am not sure what you mean by "to seek my goal". For many, nothing is broken, or they have an interest in things continuing as they are. We'd have to get into problem soving mode to do all that. The world does not seem to be in a problem solving mood. This is of course true, "business as usual" is nideed in the process of destroying the world. Not sure what it has to do with the previous topic but FWIW I agree. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

