On 2 June 2014 03:50, <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> I suppose it comes down to what you call a universe.
>>>>
>>>> Would you say there is any difference that matters between a single
>>>> universe that contains all possible experiences vs. Many universes which
>>>> only in aggregate contain all possible universes?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Neither is religiously acceptable
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> According to which religion? If god is omniscient, would he not know
>>> what it is like to be every possible observer having every possible
>>> experience?
>>>
>>
>> According to my religion, God can compute the future of a block timeless
>> MWI universe at any time out to infinity. So, such a god is omniscient to
>> that extent including knowing "what it is like to be every possible
>> observer having every possible experience."
>>
>> But such a universe is deterministic and may lack free will. In my
>> religion, god has provided for free will within our universe. God has also
>> provided ethical questions of good versus bad by eliminating much of the
>> bad for example in the rebirth process..
>>
>> God accomplishes much of this by always selecting the quantum state (in
>> every interaction where more than one possibility is available) that
>> maximizes some aspect of the future universe- like Liebniz proposed. Much
>> of what God accomplishes might be replaced by algorithmic mechanism within
>> comp.
>> Richard
>>
>
> what I like about this is that you are candid in your beliefs, and that
> they are at the level of religion
>
> I'm not sure I like an explanation that involves a supernatural being
inspecting all the 10^80 (or whatever) atoms in the universe every time one
undergoes a transition, and deciding which one is best. There's a lot of
cold hydrogen out there radiating at 21 cm, for example, so every time one
emits a photon god has to check it to see it it's the right photon. I feel
like I may turn into an Occam's razor-wielding maniac just thinking about
it.

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