My god is a god of the gaps for sure. In this case the gap is the mechanism or magic that reduces a mental MWI block universe to a physical SWI universe. I say that our task is to find that mechanism. Richard
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2 June 2014 03:50, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On May 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> I suppose it comes down to what you call a universe. >>>>> >>>>> Would you say there is any difference that matters between a single >>>>> universe that contains all possible experiences vs. Many universes which >>>>> only in aggregate contain all possible universes? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Neither is religiously acceptable >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> According to which religion? If god is omniscient, would he not know >>>> what it is like to be every possible observer having every possible >>>> experience? >>>> >>> >>> According to my religion, God can compute the future of a block timeless >>> MWI universe at any time out to infinity. So, such a god is omniscient to >>> that extent including knowing "what it is like to be every possible >>> observer having every possible experience." >>> >>> But such a universe is deterministic and may lack free will. In my >>> religion, god has provided for free will within our universe. God has also >>> provided ethical questions of good versus bad by eliminating much of the >>> bad for example in the rebirth process.. >>> >>> God accomplishes much of this by always selecting the quantum state (in >>> every interaction where more than one possibility is available) that >>> maximizes some aspect of the future universe- like Liebniz proposed. Much >>> of what God accomplishes might be replaced by algorithmic mechanism within >>> comp. >>> Richard >>> >> >> what I like about this is that you are candid in your beliefs, and that >> they are at the level of religion >> >> I'm not sure I like an explanation that involves a supernatural being > inspecting all the 10^80 (or whatever) atoms in the universe every time one > undergoes a transition, and deciding which one is best. There's a lot of > cold hydrogen out there radiating at 21 cm, for example, so every time one > emits a photon god has to check it to see it it's the right photon. I feel > like I may turn into an Occam's razor-wielding maniac just thinking about > it. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
