On 27 May 2014, at 01:37, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:53 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything
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Subject: Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer
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On 26 May 2014 23:31, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:12 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 25 May 2014 23:32, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
I guess it would be pedantic to point out the silliness of aliens
wanting to have sex with humans. I mean, we're more closely related
to grass, jellyfish and slugs than we are to aliens...
Unless, of course life had already spread throughout our galaxy
billions of years before our star was born and we are just the local
Sol branch off the same galactic (or who knows perhaps even larger
scale) tree of life. A plausible hypothesis - actually saw it a few
nights ago on the Cosmos reboot is that when stars transit through
interstellar gas clouds (the nurseries of new stars and planets)
their attendant comet clouds become gravitationally perturbed,
initiating an era of cometary bombardment.
I think they're doing a fine job with that reboot, although probably
not up to Bruno's standards, lol.
Recently found a video where the host chats for 3 minutes on his
take regarding "atheism and agnosticism":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos
Very nice. I am not astonished that Tyson is systematically renamed
"atheist" on the wiki page on him (that he did not create, but try to
correct, unsuccessfully!).
In Brussels, the atheists claims that agnostics are atheists, but this
can only create a confusion.
Some claim that my problem in Brussels was that in the introduction to
"Conscience & Mécanisme" I make clear what I mean by agnostic (~[] g)
and atheists ([]~g). Natural language confuse easily ~[] and []~.
Modal logic is useful if only to explain that difference.
Bruno
PGC
If a planet orbiting a star that is transiting one of these immense
clouds get a good whack some of its life bearing rock can be hurled
from the system and every once in a great while find its way to
another water bearing planet orbiting some other star. This actually
sounds plausible to me... that interstellar nurseries are also the
cosmic engines for spreading advanced microbial life forms from
planets of one star to other planets orbiting other stars.... Over the
eons. Perhaps star systems have been exchanging DNA and microbial
life since life first began somewhere in our galaxy and that this
kind of emergent process is occurring in every galaxy in every
universe with laws consonant with stable wet organic chemistry.
Chris
Makes sense, of course, but I'm not so sure. I don't think we know
enough at this point to estimate the diversity of the solution space
for biologically evolved entities with human-level intelligence or
above. It could be that something very similar to us is the only
viable solution, or the most likely solution.
Functionally similar (perhaps), but certainly not genetically
similar. We aren't even gentically similar enough to interbreed with
any other species that evolved on the same planet under very similar
conditions to us - for example, we are very closely related to
chimps, but we still can't interbreed with them.
Ok, but now you're making the requirements more stringent. We were
talking about outer-space fetishists, not necessarily interbreeding.
So functional similarity might be enough, as alluded in "sheep are
nervous". :)
Well if you're just talking about something you can put your dick in
(or an alien can put their proboscis in), that's a (ahem) broad
range of items, depending on your tastes (See "A melon for ecstasy"
and "The unrepentant necrophile" for some suggestions for things one
can "have sex with" in this sense, should one be so inclined).
However your original reply (in blue above) certainly appeared to be
talking about interbreeding. (Or did you mean humanoid forms are
"the only viable solution for fetishists who happen to get their
kicks from anally probing members of other species" ?)
But anyway .... OK, aliens may want to have sex with humans, just as
a human may want to have sex with orangutans - but generally they
won't, because sexual attraction is fairly fine tuned, both by
evolution and social norms (indeed it's so fine tuned that species
that could in theory interbreed often don't) - and, at least in my
experience, most humans don't even want to have sex with most other
humans ..... never mind fancying members of a different species who
will almost certainly give out all the wrong visual, behavioural,
and chemical cues.
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