Dr. Marchal, do you ever get in conversations with your fellow academician, Clement Vidal? He's a philosopher at your University? Do you ever get into the Evo-Devo view?
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 10:36 am Subject: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture On 27 May 2014, at 01:37, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:53 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture On 26 May 2014 23:31, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:12 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: On 25 May 2014 23:32, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: I guess it would be pedantic to point out the silliness of aliens wanting to have sex with humans. I mean, we're more closely related to grass, jellyfish and slugs than we are to aliens... Unless, of course life had already spread throughout our galaxy billions of years before our star was born and we are just the local Sol branch off the same galactic (or who knows perhaps even larger scale) tree of life. A plausible hypothesis – actually saw it a few nights ago on the Cosmos reboot is that when stars transit through interstellar gas clouds (the nurseries of new stars and planets) their attendant comet clouds become gravitationally perturbed, initiating an era of cometary bombardment. I think they're doing a fine job with that reboot, although probably not up to Bruno's standards, lol. Recently found a video where the host chats for 3 minutes on his take regarding "atheism and agnosticism": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos Very nice. I am not astonished that Tyson is systematically renamed "atheist" on the wiki page on him (that he did not create, but try to correct, unsuccessfully!). In Brussels, the atheists claims that agnostics are atheists, but this can only create a confusion. Some claim that my problem in Brussels was that in the introduction to "Conscience & Mécanisme" I make clear what I mean by agnostic (~[] g) and atheists ([]~g). Natural language confuse easily ~[] and []~. Modal logic is useful if only to explain that difference. Bruno PGC If a planet orbiting a star that is transiting one of these immense clouds get a good whack some of its life bearing rock can be hurled from the system and every once in a great while find its way to another water bearing planet orbiting some other star. This actually sounds plausible to me… that interstellar nurseries are also the cosmic engines for spreading advanced microbial life forms from planets of one star to other planets orbiting other stars…. Over the eons. Perhaps star systems have been exchanging DNA and microbial life since life first began somewhere in our galaxy and that this kind of emergent process is occurring in every galaxy in every universe with laws consonant with stable wet organic chemistry. Chris Makes sense, of course, but I'm not so sure. I don't think we know enough at this point to estimate the diversity of the solution space for biologically evolved entities with human-level intelligence or above. It could be that something very similar to us is the only viable solution, or the most likely solution. Functionally similar (perhaps), but certainly not genetically similar. We aren't even gentically similar enough to interbreed with any other species that evolved on the same planet under very similar conditions to us - for example, we are very closely related to chimps, but we still can't interbreed with them. Ok, but now you're making the requirements more stringent. We were talking about outer-space fetishists, not necessarily interbreeding. So functional similarity might be enough, as alluded in "sheep are nervous". :) Well if you're just talking about something you can put your dick in (or an alien can put their proboscis in), that's a (ahem) broad range of items, depending on your tastes (See "A melon for ecstasy" and "The unrepentant necrophile" for some suggestions for things one can "have sex with" in this sense, should one be so inclined). However your original reply (in blue above) certainly appeared to be talking about interbreeding. (Or did you mean humanoid forms are "the only viable solution for fetishists who happen to get their kicks from anally probing members of other species" ?) But anyway .... OK, aliens may want to have sex with humans, just as a human may want to have sex with orangutans - but generally they won't, because sexual attraction is fairly fine tuned, both by evolution and social norms (indeed it's so fine tuned that species that could in theory interbreed often don't) - and, at least in my experience, most humans don't even want to have sex with most other humans ..... never mind fancying members of a different species who will almost certainly give out all the wrong visual, behavioural, and chemical cues. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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