On 25 Jun 2014, at 17:55, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Dr. Marchal, do you ever get in conversations with your fellow
academician, Clement Vidal? He's a philosopher at your University?
Do you ever get into the Evo-Devo view?
I don't know him. I don't know Evo-Devo view. You might say more on
this perhaps.
Bruno
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On 27 May 2014, at 01:37, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:53 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via
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On 26 May 2014 23:31, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:12 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25 May 2014 23:32, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess it would be pedantic to point out the silliness of aliens
wanting to have sex with humans. I mean, we're more closely related
to grass, jellyfish and slugs than we are to aliens...
Unless, of course life had already spread throughout our galaxy
billions of years before our star was born and we are just the
local Sol branch off the same galactic (or who knows perhaps even
larger scale) tree of life. A plausible hypothesis - actually saw
it a few nights ago on the Cosmos reboot is that when stars transit
through interstellar gas clouds (the nurseries of new stars and
planets) their attendant comet clouds become gravitationally
perturbed, initiating an era of cometary bombardment.
I think they're doing a fine job with that reboot, although
probably not up to Bruno's standards, lol.
Recently found a video where the host chats for 3 minutes on his
take regarding "atheism and agnosticism":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos
Very nice. I am not astonished that Tyson is systematically renamed
"atheist" on the wiki page on him (that he did not create, but try
to correct, unsuccessfully!).
In Brussels, the atheists claims that agnostics are atheists, but
this can only create a confusion.
Some claim that my problem in Brussels was that in the introduction
to "Conscience & Mécanisme" I make clear what I mean by agnostic
(~[] g) and atheists ([]~g). Natural language confuse easily ~[] and
[]~. Modal logic is useful if only to explain that difference.
Bruno
PGC
If a planet orbiting a star that is transiting one of these immense
clouds get a good whack some of its life bearing rock can be hurled
from the system and every once in a great while find its way to
another water bearing planet orbiting some other star. This
actually sounds plausible to me... that interstellar nurseries are
also the cosmic engines for spreading advanced microbial life forms
from planets of one star to other planets orbiting other stars....
Over the eons. Perhaps star systems have been exchanging DNA and
microbial life since life first began somewhere in our galaxy and
that this kind of emergent process is occurring in every galaxy in
every universe with laws consonant with stable wet organic chemistry.
Chris
Makes sense, of course, but I'm not so sure. I don't think we know
enough at this point to estimate the diversity of the solution
space for biologically evolved entities with human-level
intelligence or above. It could be that something very similar to
us is the only viable solution, or the most likely solution.
Functionally similar (perhaps), but certainly not genetically
similar. We aren't even gentically similar enough to interbreed
with any other species that evolved on the same planet under very
similar conditions to us - for example, we are very closely related
to chimps, but we still can't interbreed with them.
Ok, but now you're making the requirements more stringent. We were
talking about outer-space fetishists, not necessarily
interbreeding. So functional similarity might be enough, as alluded
in "sheep are nervous". :)
Well if you're just talking about something you can put your dick
in (or an alien can put their proboscis in), that's a (ahem) broad
range of items, depending on your tastes (See "A melon for ecstasy"
and "The unrepentant necrophile" for some suggestions for things
one can "have sex with" in this sense, should one be so inclined).
However your original reply (in blue above) certainly appeared to
be talking about interbreeding. (Or did you mean humanoid forms are
"the only viable solution for fetishists who happen to get their
kicks from anally probing members of other species" ?)
But anyway .... OK, aliens may want to have sex with humans, just
as a human may want to have sex with orangutans - but generally
they won't, because sexual attraction is fairly fine tuned, both by
evolution and social norms (indeed it's so fine tuned that species
that could in theory interbreed often don't) - and, at least in my
experience, most humans don't even want to have sex with most other
humans ..... never mind fancying members of a different species who
will almost certainly give out all the wrong visual, behavioural,
and chemical cues.
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