On 29 June 2014 05:47, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> t's the "materialist hat" (I'm not sure which colour it is). Calling
> "bullshit!" on comp and similar ideas without stopping to understand them
> seems to stem from a religious belief in materialism (Bill Taylor on the
> FOAR forum is another example of this). There is endless spluttering and
> shouting and often even (gasp) capital letters, but never any sign that the
> person concerned has stopped and thought it through, in the spirit of "what
> if he's got a point?"

Yeah, occasionally I find myself re-reading conversations I had with
Bruno years ago (usually as a result of googling for some reference).
It reminds me that in the beginning I was pretty certain he must be
wrong, but his patience and persistence forced me repeatedly to refine
and reconsider my arguments, to the point that eventually I started to
see the holes in my own logic. This is the value of really sticking to
a line of thought in discussion (as opposed to point scoring). It
helps us, if we are willing to make the effort, to expose the
contradictory assumptions in our own thinking.

David

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