On 26 Jun 2014, at 20:51, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> Concerning the existence of a china teapot in orbit around the
planet Uranus, are you a teapot atheist or agnostic?
> Agnostic.
Is the possibility of such a orbiting teapot large enough that it
would alter your behavior in any way? If not then you're a teapot
atheist.
Well both the absence and presence of that teapot might not alter my
behavior, especially without pictures by cosmic bots like Voyager and
Cassandra.
Why would I deny the existence of the teapot around Uranus. I can only
find this quite unplausible, but as I want you to listen to machines,
I have to train you to reason on large semi-axiomatic definition. So I
will still say that I am agnostic on the teapot, may be here because I
am not even interested in debating such existence (although I get the
point for its use as a (bad) analogy of "god").
> You never know.
Are you sure about that? Are you a never know atheist or a never
know agnostic?
> your analogy does not work, because the notion of god is not that
clear-cut.
That's not important. Most intelligent educated people long ago
abandoned the notion of God,
Lol
the important thing is not the idea the important thing is the
English word G-O-D;
?
even though it no longer means anything people such as yourself just
refuse to abandon those 3 letters if they are in that sequence.
On the contrary, I don't care at all about the word "G-O-D", I care
about the notion behind. Call it the "ONE", and read Plotinus, if you
want to understand a different conception of God and Matter.
God is more neutral than matter. With the term "god" you can do
theology in a open way toward both Plato and Aristotle. With Matter
you start in the theology of Aristotle.
You are the one who seem to care a lot about the word "God". I made
clear that God is not nameable (in the machine's theology, with the
lexicon provided in the Plotinus paper). So you are the one having a
vocabulary problem on something for which we know *any* vocabulary is
not suitable. So I keep the most common name, used in most book on
comparative theology.
Bruno
John K Clark
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