On 29 Jun 2014, at 19:24, John Clark wrote:

> Why in hell do we keep talking about ancient ignoramuses like Plotinus and
> the worst physicist who ever lived, Aristotle?
>
> Likewise why mention Galileo or Newton or Maxwell, when they've been shown
to be wrong? Or Einstein or Heisenberg, since we know relativity and
quantum mechanics are only approximations to some as yet unknown TOE?

I think the answer is that you should give credit to whoever originated an
idea, even if s/he only came up with an approximate version that was later
refined (after all, the Ancient Greeks were *very *limited by the available
technology, so merely having these ideas, with essentially no empirical
support, wasn't bad going!).

So "atoms and the void" (Democritus?) is a reasonable approximation to
"primitive materialism" even now, and "the reflection of perfect forms" is
a reasonable approximation to "It from Bit".

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