On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:42 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Why in hell do we keep talking about ancient ignoramuses like Plotinus
>> and the worst physicist who ever lived, Aristotle?
>>
>> > Likewise why mention Galileo or Newton or Maxwell, when they've been
> shown to be wrong?
>

Because unlike Aristotle Newton and Maxwell could not be easily proven
wrong even in their own time, and even today they are not wrong within
their area of applicability, Maxwell's work is still valid provided things
don't get too small, and things work fine for Newton if things don't move
too fast or gravity gets too strong. And that is why we teach and will
always continue to teach those theories in schools. But Aristotle's
physical theories are and have always been completely worthless and the
only place they should be taught is a course on the history of bad ideas.

> Or Einstein or Heisenberg, since we know relativity and quantum mechanics
> are only approximations to some as yet unknown TOE?
>

The trouble is that Aristotle's shallow ideas are not even approximately
correct, they're just flat out wrong.

> the Ancient Greeks were *very *limited by the available technology,
>

That is no excuse! The technology at the time was good enough to
demonstrate that a heavy rock does not fall faster than a slightly lighter
rock, and Aristotle was supposed to be a master of logic and should have
realized from pure logic alone that contradictions followed from that idea.
And I must say I think this ancestor worship for the ancient Greeks is
downright unhealthy and the idea that they (or even some 18th century
philosopher) could help us  solve today's cutting edge scientific mysteries
is just ridiculous.

  John K Clark

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