On 03 Jul 2014, at 20:05, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I think that the presence of such teapot is highly implausible.
But I can't be sure.
I don't believe that for one second, I think you are sure there is
not a china teapot in orbit around the planet Uranus;
That is your problem, if you think for other people.
although please note that being sure is not the same thing as having
a proof, nor is being sure the same thing as being correct.
Ad then god is not quite the same thing than a tea-pot. So this is
just distracting.
In science we very often enlarge the sense of a term, to allow a more
homogenous treatment.
I define theology by the study of the truth about you and not-you, if
you want. Science is the subpart concerned with what is 3p
communicable, or relatively communicable, and the proper theology
contains also the true statements, but that you cannot justify
rationally.
This should not offend nobody. Fundamental theories asserting that
there is only a physical world, become theologies, and so we can
reason in comp in a neutral way with respect to Plato and Aristotle
since the start. Plato adopts that neutrality in his dialogs.
You criticize a lot Aristotle, but you seems to behave like if you are
unable to doubt its theology.
>>> "omnipotence" is self-contradictory.
>>I know, but a little thing like being self-contradictory would
never stop a good theologian
> Lol. Good humor.
I wish it were a joke, just last month in a HBO documentary Pastor
Peter LaRuffa educated the world with these words of wisdom:
"If somewhere within the Bible, I were to find a passage that said
2 + 2 = 5, I wouldn't question what I'm reading in the Bible. I
would believe it, accept it as true, and then do my best to work it
out and understand it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysecinv367w
You cannot infer from "a theologian says bs" to theology is bs.
> You really talk like a priest, unable to doubt its religious belief
Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never
heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12.
You did not answer my question. What is your 'religion'. Don't tell in
which Gods you don't believe. Tell me the one in which you do believe.
Tell me if you believe in a primitively existing physical reality, or
if you are open to the possibility that the fundamental reality is
arithmetic (there are reason independent of comp to believe this).
Bruno
John K Clark
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