Understood. I would have been tempted back in the days of Tora Bora in 2001. I would want the Muslim realm to say to themselves, "These people are pissed, and they may come for us!" You might know that I saw the Bushes and the Clintons and even Barr, are affiliated with the Ruling Classes of Wallstreet, Hollywood, etc. It's sort of a mafia, and has acted, successfully, as a Buffer against bad guys like Iran (to a lesser extent) and to Saudi (to a far greater extent). Tora Bora would have been an underground nuke, or, more likely, a thermobaric weapon. You can see how much I differ from the ruling classes views on what is best for the US, and our friends in the world. There are non-violent things we ought to do as part of the counter Jihad, but that doesn't get people's interests like advocating war. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 7:42 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence
Why bother with expensive carpet bombing. Just nuke them. Unsigned On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: It sounds reasonable, however as the country tune says. "Ya gotta stand for something or you'll fall for anything." This lyric also made into a Chinese fortune cookie, I once saw. On the specifics of the Jihad we now seem to face, because of America's weakness by Bush but also by Obama, especially. But you asked a question, so here's my work up. 1. Fuel freedom from OPEC. Venezuela, Mother Russia. This is a giant discussion in itself. 2. Be willing to arm and train and work with anybody who is willing to stand against the Islamists.* 3. Focus on the infiltration of domestic Islamist groups, CAIR, NAMS, schools, and Leftist academics, and former politicians who are in the pay of Saudi. This would have included both Bushies and the Clitons. But that's McCarthtyism! It's more Gene MacCarthyism, but OK. 4. Open up communications with non-radical Muslims like Amadis and Kurds, Turkomen. 5. If all else fails consider carpet bombing for regime overthrow, massive and sustained. When the regrowth naturally occurs, bomb again. No problem. You can hold the land, but ya can't build. *This would be large scale from Nigeria to Europe to East and South Asia, Australia. We man up against Jihadi tyrants. Before you complain about nice Muslims, please cite one protest against murdering Kuffars, by the Umah? Do you know what Kuffar means, Umah? You Like? I would assess the whole position based on all available data; and if things got so ugly that distasteful countermeasure are the only route, then I would take them in offering my resignation, given say lack of time to decide. I sure wouldn't jump to unjustified wars and use only very particular means; definitely not have some prepackaged answer that I would parade on public web lists. That would be strategically insane. -----Original Message----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 9:03 am Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Everything you post is an attempt at derision, Why? You post your prejudice and will to use force against entire cultural/religious community, most with no military ambition whatsoever. I have pointed out and will continue to point out that I disagree with this radical rhetoric. which is an attempt to fudge things, or as Alinsky opined, "freeze it, attack it." However this avoids answeing a question or two. Its not that tough a question. Under what circumstances would you chose to send US soldiers into war? Assuming I were in office, which yes "that'll be the effin day", definitely not some left "formula" you have in mind. This would be strategically weak and predictable. I would assess the whole position based on all available data; and if things got so ugly that distasteful countermeasure are the only route, then I would take them in offering my resignation, given say lack of time to decide. I sure wouldn't jump to unjustified wars and use only very particular means; definitely not have some prepackaged answer that I would parade on public web lists. That would be strategically insane. No fudging; now what is your point with these posts then? PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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