Yeah the Patriot Acts and the FISA courts are illusions intended to trick people into feeling safe, but does zero matetial good except surrender freedoms that matter. Enhanced interogation in basically suffocation torture, and theres no public evidence that it worked. There are alternatives to the above and yes, here I go again, one of them is if we fight, fight to win. Its not the only way to achieve goals but taking it off the table to soothe one's nerves is no way to survive. We can and should try other ways, but the Obama diplomacy seems like something antithetical to producing more freedom and wealth. But as you have pointed out, I am just a voice in the wilderness. That's life, but the emporer, your emporer, has no clothes.

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You indicated you had a few disputes with Obama. His national security state is obviously not one of these.


What is obvious here is that you're brain such as it is has been infected and rendered stupid and blind by your ideology of hatred. If you think I am okay with the national security state (begun a long time ago mostly after WWII (and even before then), but very much accelerated under the Bush Administration with the infamous PATRIOT Act and PATRIOT Act II); you are profoundly mistaken.


&gt;&gt; It's merely a matter of Thank Stalin, its not a rightwing security state. And the abuse of power has expanded vastly then under Bushie-but, no matter. A fearless leader is a fearless leader. Good job. 



You don't really string thoughts together very well do you? Might want to work on that.




aha -- you so obviously do not know me in the slightest. You say I side with the NSA (this little gem of your juvenile invective, induced side splitting laughter in me) Please get your arrows arranged in some logical order in your quiver.  You can accuse me of  being an ardent admirer of the NSA or a Trotskyite Muslim loving traitor, but not both in the same mouthful. No that makes no sense at all... are you entirely sure your brain is operating within normal parameters?



-----Original Message-----From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List &lt;[email protected]&gt;To: everything-list &lt;[email protected]&gt;Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:28 pmSubject: Re: American Intelligence

From: spudboy100 via Everything List &lt;[email protected]&gt; I will never be your 'darlin' -- not even after hell freezes over... so don't get your hopes up piss ant. 


Well, maybe its simply that He who lives by the state, dies by the state? I have some distrust for all these guys you side with-Obama's NSA, Obama's FBI, Obama's IRS. They are your's, now, Mr. Trostsky and now you own them. ;-)


Haha -- you so obviously do not know me in the slightest. You say I side with the NSA (this little gem of your juvenile invective, induced side splitting laughter in me) Please get your arrows arranged in some logical order in your quiver.  You can accuse me of  being an ardent admirer of the NSA or a Trotskyite Muslim loving traitor, but not both in the same mouthful. No that makes no sense at all... are you entirely sure your brain is operating within normal parameters?








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