I will never be your 'darlin' -- not even after hell freezes over... so don't
get your hopes up piss ant.
Well, maybe its simply that He who lives by the state, dies by the state? I
have some distrust for all these guys you side with-Obama's NSA, Obama's FBI,
Obama's IRS. They are your's, now, Mr. Trostsky and now you own them. ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
Yes, I can see what you are: Genocidal maniac, escaped from neocon
insane-asylum.
Chris
>>Last I checked, darlin', sanity has never been a dictum for human history,
>>only the use of raw power.
I will never be your 'darlin' -- not even after hell freezes over... so don't
get your hopes up piss ant.
Some suppose that the interest in freedoms, responsibility, and rational
government was a sometime thing, and this appears to be trending true
worldwide. Must be that the power thing is more effective?
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Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 12:11 pm
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Understood. I would have been tempted back in the days of Tora Bora in 2001. I
would want the Muslim realm to say to themselves, "These people are pissed, and
they may come for us!" You might know that I saw the Bushes and the Clintons
and even Barr, are affiliated with the Ruling Classes of Wallstreet, Hollywood,
etc. It's sort of a mafia, and has acted, successfully, as a Buffer against bad
guys like Iran (to a lesser extent) and to Saudi (to a far greater extent).
Tora Bora would have been an underground nuke, or, more likely, a thermobaric
weapon. You can see how much I differ from the ruling classes views on what is
best for the US, and our friends in the world. There are non-violent things we
ought to do as part of the counter Jihad, but that doesn't get people's
interests like advocating war.
Yes, I can see what you are: Genocidal maniac, escaped from neocon
insane-asylum.
Chris
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From: Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 7:42 am
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Why bother with expensive carpet bombing. Just nuke them.
Unsigned
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
It sounds reasonable, however as the country tune says. "Ya gotta stand for
something or you'll fall for anything." This lyric also made into a Chinese
fortune cookie, I once saw. On the specifics of the Jihad we now seem to face,
because of America's weakness by Bush but also by Obama, especially. But you
asked a question, so here's my work up.
1. Fuel freedom from OPEC. Venezuela, Mother Russia. This is a giant discussion
in itself.
2. Be willing to arm and train and work with anybody who is willing to stand
against the Islamists.*
3. Focus on the infiltration of domestic Islamist groups, CAIR, NAMS, schools,
and Leftist academics, and former politicians who are in the pay of Saudi. This
would have included both Bushies and the Clitons. But that's McCarthtyism! It's
more Gene MacCarthyism, but OK.
4. Open up communications with non-radical Muslims like Amadis and Kurds,
Turkomen.
5. If all else fails consider carpet bombing for regime overthrow, massive and
sustained. When the regrowth naturally occurs, bomb again. No problem. You can
hold the land, but ya can't build.
*This would be large scale from Nigeria to Europe to East and South Asia,
Australia. We man up against Jihadi tyrants.
Before you complain about nice Muslims, please cite one protest against
murdering Kuffars, by the Umah? Do you know what Kuffar means, Umah?
You Like?
I would assess the whole position based on all available data; and if things
got so ugly that distasteful countermeasure are the only route, then I would
take them in offering my resignation, given say lack of time to decide.
I sure wouldn't jump to unjustified wars and use only very particular means;
definitely not have some prepackaged answer that I would parade on public web
lists. That would be strategically insane.
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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 9:03 am
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Everything you post is an attempt at derision,
Why? You post your prejudice and will to use force against entire
cultural/religious community, most with no military ambition whatsoever. I have
pointed out and will continue to point out that I disagree with this radical
rhetoric.
which is an attempt to fudge things, or as Alinsky opined, "freeze it, attack
it." However this avoids answeing a question or two. Its not that tough a
question. Under what circumstances would you chose to send US soldiers into war?
Assuming I were in office, which yes "that'll be the effin day", definitely not
some left "formula" you have in mind. This would be strategically weak and
predictable. I would assess the whole position based on all available data; and
if things got so ugly that distasteful countermeasure are the only route, then
I would take them in offering my resignation, given say lack of time to decide.
I sure wouldn't jump to unjustified wars and use only very particular means;
definitely not have some prepackaged answer that I would parade on public web
lists. That would be strategically insane.
No fudging; now what is your point with these posts then? PGC
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