On 7/11/2014 12:12 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 July 2014 17:26, meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 7/10/2014 10:16 PM, LizR wrote:
    On 11 July 2014 06:22, meekerdb <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On 7/10/2014 12:59 AM, LizR wrote:

            Without claiming to be a wiser head, I will still say that you 
don't use
            747s in a green economy! You use airships... And you reduce air 
traffic by
            getting almost everyone to telecommute.


        The trouble with airships is that they slow and they can't handle bad 
weather.
         The Shenandoah and the Akron were destroyed stormy weather within 3yrs 
of
        being built.  The Macon suffered a structural failure mainly due to a 
design
        fault.  Only the Los Angeles, of the Navy's big airships, served eight 
years
        and was decommissioned.  The Los Angeles was built by Zepplin and it 
took 81
        hrs to fly from Germany to New Jersey.  The Hindenburg, which was the 
same size
        but used hydrogen instead of helium for buoyancy, had a crew of 61 and 
carried
        36 passengers.  So a ticket was very expensive.


    Is this still true of airships built using modern technology?
    I'm sure there are improvements, but I think those two problems remain.  
It's
    obvious that large airship will be hard to control in a storm and they 
can't fly
    over them like airliners.  They're not going to be much faster, so long 
distance
    flights will still require a lot of food and water and passenger support 
with lot
    fewer turn arounds per week - so the cost much go up proportionately.


This is true, however I think a "green economy" should not involve a lot of passenger air travel by any method.

Right. And it's moved that way a lot. In the '70s and '80s I used to fly to conferences and business meetings five to ten times a year. In the late '90s we got video conferencing and cut back on travel. With the ubiquity of computers it turned out that the video wasn't that useful and we started to do almost all meetings by phone+computer. Now about the only air travel I do is to visit my mother in Texas once or twice a year. A fast train would probably do as well for me.

Brent

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