On 7/12/2014 4:23 AM, LizR wrote:
On 12 July 2014 07:58, John Mikes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Liz, you missed my words about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'. Fighting AGAINST
something
reqires SOME concept of the enemy, so an atheist 'requires' SOME concept of
'a'
(any) god as a target.
Yes, I agree. Or at the very least they have a definite idea of what is the correct
approach to understanding reality, and have decided that any contradiction to it isn't
allowed.
You pretend that atheists have some dictatorial power. Anything is allowed. That doesn't
mean that one has to agree with or believe anything.
Sorry if I missed your (or anyone's) posts, there are some very long posts on this forum
and I don't have that much time so I often miss things (although I would love not to!)
- MY - agnostic, however, does not find any such 'target' reasonble so the
totality
has to be built on some different basis. Who knows on what kind of?
I call it an infinite complexity, not on arithmetical basis as Bruno
advised, since
arithmetic ways of thinking are HUMAN logic and the totality is much much
wider than
what such restrictive boundaries would allow.
Ah, now that depends on whether humans are capable of discovering universal truths. (Do
you think aliens with advanced technology would disagree that 17 is a prime number,
however they chose to express that fact?)
Of course they wouldn't because "17 is a prime number" is a tautology. It's true simply
in virtue of it's meaning like "x is x". But is it a fact about the world or just a fact
about language?
Brent
Since 'a' god does not fit into my agnosticism, no bible could have been
written by
it. Scripture etc. is a nice remnant of times when people had too much time
on their
hand and a fantasy-world with very few restrictive items.
Then power usurped the general belief of the public and exploited it. We
are still
living within such.
Yes, again I agree.
Please add to every one of my sentences in ( - ) "I dunno".
I do that with everyone, including myself. It's perhaps the intellectual equivalent of
imagining your audience naked.
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