2014-07-12 21:34 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <[email protected]>: > On 7/12/2014 4:23 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 12 July 2014 07:58, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Liz, you missed my words about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'. Fighting AGAINST >> something reqires SOME concept of the enemy, so an atheist 'requires' SOME >> concept of 'a' (any) god as a target. >> > > Yes, I agree. Or at the very least they have a definite idea of what is > the correct approach to understanding reality, and have decided that any > contradiction to it isn't allowed. > > > You pretend that atheists have some dictatorial power. Anything is > allowed. That doesn't mean that one has to agree with or believe anything. > > > Sorry if I missed your (or anyone's) posts, there are some very long > posts on this forum and I don't have that much time so I often miss things > (although I would love not to!) > > >> - MY - agnostic, however, does not find any such 'target' reasonble so >> the totality has to be built on some different basis. Who knows on what >> kind of? >> I call it an infinite complexity, not on arithmetical basis as Bruno >> advised, since arithmetic ways of thinking are HUMAN logic and the totality >> is much much wider than what such restrictive boundaries would allow. >> > > Ah, now that depends on whether humans are capable of discovering > universal truths. (Do you think aliens with advanced technology would > disagree that 17 is a prime number, however they chose to express that > fact?) > > > Of course they wouldn't because "17 is a prime number" is a tautology. > It's true simply in virtue of it's meaning like "x is x". But is it a fact > about the world or just a fact about language? > > If it is just a fact about language, then another language could conclude otherwise... yet...
Quentin > Brent > > > > >> Since 'a' god does not fit into my agnosticism, no bible could have >> been written by it. Scripture etc. is a nice remnant of times when people >> had too much time on their hand and a fantasy-world with very few >> restrictive items. >> Then power usurped the general belief of the public and exploited it. We >> are still living within such. >> > > Yes, again I agree. > >> >> Please add to every one of my sentences in ( - ) "I dunno". >> > > I do that with everyone, including myself. It's perhaps the intellectual > equivalent of imagining your audience naked. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
