> On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>:
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>>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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>>> 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias <[email protected]>:
>>>> Why do you need to see God to believe in God?
>>>
>>> Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should you
>>> believe instead of not believing or go eating an hamburger ?
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>>
>> Seeing might make you know *that* you see, but it does not entail that you
>> know *what* you see, as you might be dreaming or hallucinating.
>
> That wasn't what I was implying... I see not point to "believe" or not
> "believe"... Why *shoud* I believe anyway ?
>
because, if there is more than just this terrestrial life, your eternity might
depend upon your belief, motives and consequent actions
Samiya
>>
>> In general you believe something, not because you see it, but because it
>> fits well with your background knowledge. I can't see the set {0, 1, 2,
>> ...}, nor really define it, yet I hardly doubt that it makes sense, as it
>> explains a lot of other things in which I already tend to believe (like the
>> non existence of a bigger prime, or the existence of universal numbers, the
>> real numbers, etc.).
>>
>> Bruno
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>>>
>>> Quentin
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>>>>
>>>>> On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:14 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>> On 7/13/2014 3:47 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>>>>>> Sure: "Do you believe in a theist god?"
>>>>>> I'd like to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we can keep using the word "theology" and keep some academic
>>>>>> departments that have no subject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would also include political science, arts, gender studies, french
>>>>>> literature. Are you willing to go that far, and make what doesn't build
>>>>>> bridges or bake bread, something to be learned as a podcast? Sauce for
>>>>>> the goose, sauce for the gander. Dump them all. Right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can point to art, people with genders, and french literature. I've run
>>>>> a political campaign. But I've never seen a god.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brent
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