> On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>:
>> 
>>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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>>> 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Why do you need to see God to believe in God? 
>>> 
>>> Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should you 
>>> believe instead of not believing or go eating an hamburger ?
>> 
>> 
>> Seeing might make you know *that* you see, but it does not entail that you 
>> know *what* you see, as you might be dreaming or hallucinating.
> 
> That wasn't what I was implying... I see not point to "believe" or not 
> "believe"... Why *shoud* I believe anyway ?
>  
because, if there is more than just this terrestrial life, your eternity might 
depend upon your belief, motives and consequent actions 
Samiya 

>> 
>> In general you believe something, not because you see it, but because it 
>> fits well with your background knowledge. I can't see the set {0, 1, 2, 
>> ...}, nor really define it, yet I hardly doubt that it makes sense, as it 
>> explains a lot of other things in which I already tend to believe (like the 
>> non existence of a bigger prime, or the existence of universal numbers, the 
>> real numbers, etc.).
>> 
>> Bruno
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>>> 
>>> Quentin
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:14 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/13/2014 3:47 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>>>>>> Sure: "Do you believe in a theist god?"
>>>>>> I'd like to. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So we can keep using the word "theology" and keep some academic 
>>>>>> departments that have no subject.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This would also include political science, arts, gender studies, french 
>>>>>> literature. Are you willing to go that far, and make what doesn't build 
>>>>>> bridges or bake bread, something to be learned as a podcast? Sauce for 
>>>>>> the goose, sauce for the gander. Dump them all. Right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can point to art, people with genders, and french literature.  I've run 
>>>>> a political campaign.  But I've never seen a god.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brent
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