You pretend that atheists have some dictatorial power.
In the US, it seems to be getting this way. 40 or 50 years ago the reverse used to be true. In public schools, public meetings, there was an attempt to enforce Christianity as a state religion. Now, in the US, the reverse is true. In the old Soviet Union and the PRC, atheism was inseparable from government. Let me ask this aside from politics. Does atheism answer any questions personally? Does religion? Perhaps we need a useful 'theology' for both the religious and the atheist, and everyone else? -----Original Message----- From: meekerdb <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 3:34 pm Subject: Re: Atheist On 7/12/2014 4:23 AM, LizR wrote: On 12 July 2014 07:58, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: Liz, you missed my words about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'. Fighting AGAINST something reqires SOME concept of the enemy, so an atheist 'requires' SOME concept of 'a' (any) god as a target. Yes, I agree. Or at the very least they have a definite idea of what is the correct approach to understanding reality, and have decided that any contradiction to it isn't allowed. You pretend that atheists have some dictatorial power. Anything is allowed. That doesn't mean that one has to agree with or believe anything. Sorry if I missed your (or anyone's) posts, there are some very long posts on this forum and I don't have that much time so I often miss things (although I would love not to!) - MY - agnostic, however, does not find any such 'target' reasonble so the totality has to be built on some different basis. Who knows on what kind of? I call it an infinite complexity, not on arithmetical basis as Bruno advised, since arithmetic ways of thinking are HUMAN logic and the totality is much much wider than what such restrictive boundaries would allow. Ah, now that depends on whether humans are capable of discovering universal truths. (Do you think aliens with advanced technology would disagree that 17 is a prime number, however they chose to express that fact?) Of course they wouldn't because "17 is a prime number" is a tautology. It's true simply in virtue of it's meaning like "x is x". But is it a fact about the world or just a fact about language? Brent Since 'a' god does not fit into my agnosticism, no bible could have been written by it. Scripture etc. is a nice remnant of times when people had too much time on their hand and a fantasy-world with very few restrictive items. Then power usurped the general belief of the public and exploited it. We are still living within such. Yes, again I agree. Please add to every one of my sentences in ( - ) "I dunno". I do that with everyone, including myself. It's perhaps the intellectual equivalent of imagining your audience naked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
